Subject: Forge-first impressions... Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 03:25:01 +1000 (EST) From: Nikola Vukovljak <nvukovlj@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> Well, Forge arrived today to Australia! It arrived to my house at least! :-) Anyway, I opened the bag and... What happened to those cool manuals ? Oh, the contents of the manual are great, but the cover... I wanted another black cover to complement my Essence I & II covers. Don't turn cheap on me Apex. :-) (then again, at the price Forge is a steal!) Now, onto some impressions.... Not all good I'm afraid. First the good stuff. -I think that a tool like Forge is long overdue and I must congratulate Apex for releasing it! It just makes Essence so much more usable! I can see myself spending hours playing with the settings and creating some wierd (but useful) attribute sets! Well done guys! -The interface looks good and works well! Another BIG plus! -The manual is pretty good. Maybe a short tutorial or two would help. I admit that I haven't read it all, but finding bits that I was interested in was easy with the kind of Index that Apex provide. A big PLUS in my books! Now, onto some not so good stuff... -No support for Display database. Seems funny to me that almost everyone on this list is bagging Impulse for not supporting it and yet no one except for Steve Koren mentions that Forge doesn't support it either. Sure it may not need it as much as Imagine does, but that is no excuse. I want to be able to run a program in any resolution I please (within reasonable limits). It is time for developers to give us this option. Not just this but I am also a bit peeved that the res. is hard-coded as NTSC Hi-res Lace (promotable easily though). I run my machine in a PAL country. Guess what ? I want PAL resolutions. -Forge can act very funny depending on where it is installed. I kept getting a requester saying that it couldn't locate xxxxx/xxxx/Imagine_2 directory. I don't even have that directory on my HD! Setting the hard texture path didn't help until I defined Imagine: as a logical device. What is the problem here ? -I don't think that Forge has been tested with EGS boards. I am using a Piccolo board with EGS v6.1. Now, the Arexx script that is used by Forge to display a preview on the EGS looks for a program EGS-View. EGS-View is called ShowIFF on the Piccolo so I changed this part of the script. Well, after trying this option again, I got a 'Program failure' Suspend or Reboot requester. Subsequent playing around with EGS screen modes, no. of bitplanes failed to resolve the problem. The show program seems to startup and even attempt to load the picture, but then it crashes. Has anyone with either the Piccolo or the Spectrum got this option to work ? Help me if you can! All in all though, I am pretty happy with Forge. Steve, Glenn and the rest of the Apex gang, you've done a GREAT job. (just fix the EGS problem OK ?) Nik. nvukovlj@extro.ucc.su.oz.au -=> RETURN TO CONTENTS!<=-